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Post by Cuteness Tue Mar 15, 2016 3:00 am

Discuss Eurovision 2016 stuff here.

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Post by Zexiness Tue Mar 15, 2016 8:09 am

Prince Markos wrote:I doubt you thought badly of Rise Up in 2014. I also thought bsdly of 2015's One Last Breath though.
Anyhow, I almost completely disagree with Zexy's sentiment. What's wrong with going with your native language? An English dominated contest would be quite boring frankly. Besides, for the audience in Europe there's not really a difference between Greek and Pontic Greek. I gotta admit I hate the lead signer's accented English singing though.
Definitely not Rise Up or Alcohol is Free. One Last Breath maybe, it's a bit boring for Eurovision standards.
It's wrong as in it doesn't work well when you want to achieve a good ranking, statistically-wise. People prefer to vote songs they can relate with, and understanding the lyrics is an important part of that. the less Greek our songs had, the more possible it was to score top 10 (which we did consistently in the past). Good point about them not probably caring about Pontic... but then there is Cyprus... which we indeed treated wrongly lately so we get less points than 12 lately.

Also, Leggo, yeah, lol, the moment ESC is brought up we need this thread :) pls make a Bulba one [s]hope haters hate enough to gimme some interesting reports[/s]
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Post by Princess Alexandra Tue Mar 15, 2016 8:48 am

I really don't care about how well we do, the Eurovision is about different cultures meeting together and all that, otherwise if I wanted to hear a whole lotta pop I'd just watch X-Factor ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

If you look at the last 6 years:
Alchohol is Free, Opa and Watch my Dance were all in Greek, and the latter two were Greek as fuck. They got great votes.
One last Breath, Rise Up and Aphrodisiac where English, generic, whatever. They got voted down.

This isn't an indication of what my opinion was BTW, I hated Watch My Dance and liked Rise Up a lot.

This is all moot because I'm kinda eh about our song too. I guess nobody else is really too hot on it, the decision for internal selection is gonna bite em in the ass.
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Post by Princess Alexandra Tue Mar 15, 2016 8:54 am

But hey, we've never not qualified for a semifinal. Fingers crossed and all.
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Post by Zexiness Tue Mar 15, 2016 10:22 am

good points. it's not being generic that counts. Utopian Land still isn't upbeat enough to cut it although it's definitely not generic.

internal selection could indeed be the problem.

yeah, never not qualified is quite an achievement... I'm afraid we'll get our combo breaker sooner than later tho :(
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Post by Princess Alexandra Tue Mar 15, 2016 10:33 am

Be optimistic Zexxers! The two sets of votes will work in our favour, methinks.
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Post by Zexiness Tue Mar 15, 2016 10:48 am

Prince Markos wrote:Be optimistic Zexxers! The two sets of votes will work in our favour, methinks.
is this a new voting system introduced this year?
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Post by Princess Alexandra Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:44 pm

Yes. Instead of 50/50, jury and televoting are separately counted for each country.
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Post by Zexiness Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:56 pm

Interesting... it may not cause that much of a difference, it kinda IS 50-50 in the big picture. Although it can only make a more varied point distribution and never a less varied one, which helps the low ranks more. But still not MUCH more I guess.

Sounds like the kind of thing they introduce just to make the final stage of the show last longer.
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Post by Princess Alexandra Tue Mar 15, 2016 4:37 pm

Their reasoning was more make the voting phase more exciting and to make comebacks from second or third more plausible.
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Post by Zexiness Tue Mar 15, 2016 4:42 pm

Makes sense. Longer = more exciting, especially now that they use a formula that sorts the order in which points will be given live in order to ensure as many comeback twists as possible :)
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Post by Cuteness Tue Mar 15, 2016 5:54 pm

The suspense thickens!
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Post by Cuteness Tue May 03, 2016 2:53 pm

Judging from what I've seen on Tumblr Estonia's Jüri Pootsmann is really popular

He is part of the Balkan Boys

Because they're cute?
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Post by Cuteness Tue May 03, 2016 2:57 pm

Though Jüri does have a nice voice

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Post by Princess Alexandra Mon May 09, 2016 1:50 pm

So I kinda forgot the thingie is tomorrow.

Some thoughts:

I'm kinda going into this "virgin" since I've only listened to ours, my other ours and 26th cousin's "ours" (Greece, Australia and Cyprus)

My opinion of Greece's song has steadily deteriorated over time and I've adopted Zexy's pessimistic approach and think that it's our most likely streak breaker yet for our flawless finals streak.

Australia is great, I like it a lot not much to say other than I'm happy they get to be a regular participator now and are my go to root-for if Greece fucks itself over...

... But Cyprus I'll sorta also root for, their song just isn't as good as Oz's. It's really good, nut Australia's is really good.
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Post by Princess Alexandra Tue May 10, 2016 3:14 pm

Boo, I have no Europeans and/or Leggo to geek out with. Oh well TELLY66
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Post by Princess Alexandra Tue May 10, 2016 3:23 pm

So far:

Fin: Meh
Gre: Blegh
Mda: That breakdancing shiny headed austronaut was pretty random but ok I guess
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Post by Princess Alexandra Tue May 10, 2016 3:31 pm

Hungary was pretty cool although the drummer eas kinda out of place

I like te bracelet on the audience gimmick this year

Croatia hasn't been here for a while... and they're not reentering well
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Post by Princess Alexandra Tue May 10, 2016 3:38 pm

Backwards tick tock and a countryish feel

Very meh from Netherlands
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Post by Princess Alexandra Tue May 10, 2016 3:42 pm

Armenia is supeisingly good

Nice song, very interesting visuals and the gal is certainly owned the outfit
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Post by Princess Alexandra Tue May 10, 2016 3:45 pm

San Marino looks nice and all and song isn't bad but the guy sounds terribad
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Post by Princess Alexandra Tue May 10, 2016 3:50 pm

Of course our commentators can't not commet on the Greek contributions to the Russian act

Kinda meh song, but the trippy board climbing was pretty impressive
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Post by Princess Alexandra Tue May 10, 2016 3:55 pm

Poor Czech Republic has never gone into a final XD

This song has some hopes for that, it's not half bad, the triangle thingy is nice too
Although hot pink was a poor choice for a main colour

Now, Cyprus!
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Post by Princess Alexandra Tue May 10, 2016 3:58 pm

Who the hell is doing Cyprus' bizzare camerawork XD

The cages are also kinda weird but whatevs
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Post by Princess Alexandra Tue May 10, 2016 4:00 pm

I don't get why Austria is in French but okay

Whole load of meh
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Post by Princess Alexandra Tue May 10, 2016 4:08 pm

Estonia was... interesting

Didn't really find the card tricks amusing tho
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Post by Zexiness Tue May 10, 2016 4:09 pm

I'm seriously sorry for not showing up earlier, but Easter break was over and I had to deal with moving back in Athens, a few assignments and SM news :( And it looks like Leggo isn't around either.

I still prefer to be pessimistic about Greece advancing. Cyprus' was cool, haven't listened to it earlier, would root for it if it advanced (which it should) if Greece doesn't (idk idc really).

Didn't pay too much attention to the other songs because of being distracted as I explained above.
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Post by Zexiness Tue May 10, 2016 4:11 pm

Azerbaijan meh. More meh than I'm used to from said country :(

on second thoughts, the visuals are okay. music tho...
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Post by Princess Alexandra Tue May 10, 2016 4:14 pm

Azerbaijan is niiice

On all fronts its a solid entry, our finals streak sis isn't gonna let us down [s]We're gonna let them down tho[/s]
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Post by Princess Alexandra Tue May 10, 2016 4:17 pm

Hello Zexxers!

Montenegro is very non-Eurovisiony and has similar crazy camerawork with Cyprus'

Do the directors find it more "rock" or something
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Post by Zexiness Tue May 10, 2016 4:18 pm

I'm not bothered by the camerawork.

I also guess I just find almost everything I listen as s*it
problem is, this year, I'm not paying too much attention to it as well, pretty distracted
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Post by Princess Alexandra Tue May 10, 2016 4:25 pm

Iceland was, visually impressive

Bosnia and Herzegovina is just kinda weird

And choo choo, here comes the Malta train to sweep it all up
Looks sorta promising
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Post by Zexiness Tue May 10, 2016 4:30 pm

Well it's over and I don't really remember most of it :(
I have to pay lots of attention to the next recap
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Post by Zexiness Tue May 10, 2016 4:35 pm

As I listen to the recap, the only ones that I really like were Moldova and Cyprus.
Netherlands' wasn't bad, better than the forgettable stuff out there. One of the few I remembered before the recap.
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Post by Princess Alexandra Tue May 10, 2016 5:09 pm

I can't say I'm suprised we fucked up, hopefully ERT will learn its lesson about internal selection Ice (23)

Some unexpected winners there like Netherlands and Cyprus but the again there wasn't really anything else to fill the slots
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Post by Zexiness Tue May 10, 2016 5:14 pm

Exactly.

Meh that's like two of the four countries I liked.
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Post by Cuteness Tue May 10, 2016 5:40 pm

I'm like behind on thing because finals

I'm like meh for a lot of countries, so it can be anyone's game this year
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Post by Princess Alexandra Tue May 10, 2016 5:45 pm

There really isn't that much that stands out on either side of the spectrum:

Not many great songs, and not many so bad and/or ridiculous it's good songs
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Post by Cotton Wed May 11, 2016 5:42 am

Didn't really pay much attention to it last night tbh
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Post by Princess Alexandra Thu May 12, 2016 3:27 pm

Second semifinal!

Very meh so far, Latvia was then only good one so far imo

Israel is the most meh tho
Disappointing after last year's song I found oh so catchy
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